I really like that the lower kiddo is on the other side of the stroller from my knees.. However, With my P&T I get comments from strangers all the time about how the "poor little one can't see", or "How can he stand riding down there" (BTW both my kids like to sit in the back) So I can't imagine what kind of comments I would get with the child in the rumble seat being low AND facing backwards. Also they, like P&T, ignored the fact that parents want both kids out of the sun. And how much extra are all these new goodies... I'm sure that the end price will end up more than the vibe.. and will have to be disassembled in order to put in your car. I think the Uppa comes apart like the Bugaboo already.. so you have to remove two seats and then fold the frame. I'm not so impressed...

Part of the benefit of taking kids out in a stroller is so that they can see the world. Blocking their view rather completely seems like a poor choice, even if the kids don't mind it.

I had a narrow (inline) twin stroller which I arranged so the kids could see as much as possible; they really liked it.

I think that facing towards you would be worse for the children, they cannot see what's going on! My 2 love their P&T buggy also and facing forward, mind you I have to face the right way on a train. lol

While I am not sure I would go out and buy an uppababy just for this toddler seat, I think its great for those of us that already own an uppababy. I just hope it works with my 1st-gen stroller.

I've had hands-on with the 2009 Vista and just wanted to offer some additional details/correction to the comments.

All Vista models - including 2009 - have always folded in one piece... no need to remove the seat from the frame when folding.

Note that the UPPAbaby PiggyBack (the kiddie-board) has been out for most of 2008 and is currently available from UPPAbaby dealers.

Targeted for release in spring 2009, the Rumble Seat mounts directly above the front wheels by clipping on/off the frame. It will come with a foot rest that gets placed in the bottom of the basket. The Rumble Seat must be removed before folding the Vista. When mounted, it feels quite sturdy with durable breathable canvas stretched across a frame.

According to UPPAbaby, a parasol type of sun protection may be available with the release of the Rumble Seat. It hasn't been finalized or shown yet.

Also, while it may be tough to tell from the limited photographs at this time, UPPAbaby designed the Rumble Seat to keep a buckled toddler high enough so there is no way his/her fingers can reach the turning wheel spokes.

Mounting the Rumble Seat on the front (rather than in back) doesn't take away legroom from the pushing parent.

I just emailed Uppa about compatibility of the Rumble seat with older model vistas (I have an '07). They said they hope to have a mounting kit available that will allow the seat to work on older vistas. They said they are aiming for the beginning of '09 for a release date but nothing is definite.

can the rumbleseat face forward? or only backwards?

The Rumble Seat will only face forwards. Easy snap on/snap off assembly...no pinch points or recalls (Like the Phill & Ted's)

I also contacted Uppababy about the Rumble seat - I have an '07 model and was told their will either be an adapter or you will have to buy a new frame - which sounds like a pricey option. I wrote back and said from a parents point of view the adaptor would be the way to go.

The adapter option is not available, however, we will offer to upgrade your existing frame for a flat fee that will include shipping back to you. The upgrade to an existing frame will be around $50.00.

We will also offer a frame exchange program that will be the wholesale cost of a new 2009 frame. (around $200.00)

Mike Vieira
Uppababy