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May 2, 2008

Lexus IS 300 SportCross: Saab Quirky Or Aztek Quirky?

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Since I'm not an orthodontist, a middle market hip-hopper, or my parents, I haven't paid much attention to Lexus. So I had no idea Lexus ever made a wagon--or a 5-door hatchback, or a sportback sedan, or whatever phony nomenclature manufacturers used to avoid saying "wagon"--until I saw one on the street.

The IS 300 SportCross [see?] was around from 2002-2005, and it apparently never caught on. [It sold alright the first year, but only 12,000 units the year it was discontinued.] Lexus buyers, even the younger ones in the IS target demo, didn't have the the "active lifestyle" the SportCross was designed for. Or if they did, they bought the RX.

It was the SportCross's oddball proportions that caught my attention. From the C-pillar back, it looks like an entirely different car, or maybe just a different size, like the tail's been enlarged 110%.

But Saabs always looked weird, with a lot of junk in their trunk, and people loved those. They're certainly affordable, $10-15,000 if you can find them. Is the SportCross eligible for reconsideration in these less SUV-friendly times?

See specs for the Lexus IS300 SportCross in the Model Library [lexus.com]

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I LOVE these things....though I am an admitted wagon enthusiast. If only they made them with a manual transmission. I wouldn't have rested until I found one during my recent vehicle search! As it is, I picked up a Mazda6 wagon with a stick shift and love every minute of it!

posted by: Sammy B at May 2, 2008 10:48 AM

That's a very unflattering angle: these things look much, much better in person. When we started looking for wagons, I wanted the IS bad. I now realize it was just a phase of wagon denial/bargaining. I'm over it now.

posted by: garth at May 2, 2008 11:56 AM

I. WANT. One.

posted by: Mau at May 2, 2008 12:07 PM

It actually reminds me of the Subaru Impreza. Looks like a fun mod vehicle if I was in college, but I can't imagine driving one now with two kids.

posted by: contempt at May 2, 2008 12:18 PM

Why is a daddy site talking about gas guzzling cars versus some cool daddy topics? I'm confused? When our kids are old enough, they won't be driving these types of vehicles anyhow. Please refrain from talking about dumb topics

[How about refraining from making dumb comments? The main reason I talk about cars is because I hate SUV's even more than minivans, primarily for the reason you cite: their horrible, unnecessary waste of gas. Having a kid is a prime time for changing cars, and so I am very interested in alternatives to the giant "family cars" that the automakers have become so dependent on. An IS 300 gets 27mpg, so while it's not a Prius, it's much better than an SUV. Also, buying a used car doesn't saddle you with the environmental implications of making and transporting your new whatever from wherever. -ed.]

posted by: B at May 2, 2008 1:35 PM

Lexus' schtick is kind of how innocuous they look on the outside while inside they're swanky. At least that's my non-car-obsessed opinion. My parents just got a V8 sedan (!) and it looks like a Taurus or something but inside it's the size of a private jet. Ridiculous.

posted by: Naomi at May 2, 2008 2:35 PM

Hey, man - you hurt my Hybrid Highlander's feelings...

[ah yes, the Sensitive SUV. good thing I didn't say "better than *all* SUV's" -ed.]

posted by: Kaz at May 2, 2008 3:27 PM

I always thought this was a cool alternative and I agree with the earlier comment...it's a pretty good looking car...this photo is not taken from the best angle. (That oversized C pillar was a sign of things to come in the new RX, Highlander, xB and FJ Cruiser. Somebody at Toyota decided blind spots aren't a concern.)

I'm a wagon fan and love my Legacy GT. I briefly considered the Sportcross in 05 when I made my purchase but the Sportcross was more expensive, less efficient, no more reliable and much slower than the Subaru. Not much more to consider other the Lexus name and what friends and neighbors would think of me. It was an easy choice.

Anyway, I am quickly annoyed by the bashing of various categories of vehicles in some of the above comments and elsewhere. Minivans and SUVs make perfect sense for some people.

[oops, that would be me. sorry. I usually just work on the "if I can't say anything nice" approach for SUV's, and I give minivans a break most of the time, or at least treat them as sources of amusement, not shame. -ed.]

We're struggling with this right now as kid #2 is on the way. Between the car seats, strollers, dog in the back and overfull Yakima box on the roof we know we'll have to move up in size sometime soon. We've had some good test drives with the GMC Acadia, Buick Enclave and Mazda CX-9 crossovers and I'm cringing at the abuse I'll take from friends, in-laws, bloggers, etc. for destroying the planet. I hate using gas as much as the next person but I'm annoyed by the ignorance of these critics. The fact is that I'd get just as bad mileage in a BMW 5-series wagon or a Mercedes E-class wagon and I'd have less room for the family. For some reason I could show up at an Al Gore lecture with these German wagons and nobody would bat and eye while a GMC Acadia might get boos from the crowd. Let's base these discussions on real facts and specs rather than condemnations of entire classes of vehicles. As long as this site salivates over cars like the M5 Touring and the sure to be abysmal mileage that it brings with it, let's be a little gentler on the whole SUV/minivan class.

(Also, the IS Sportcross doesn't get 27 mpg. It was rated at 18/24 in 2005 and that was under the old EPA standards. I would imagine the numbers would come in even lower today.)

[fair enough. and the 27 was from a review, not an EPA rating. -ed.]

posted by: seth at May 2, 2008 3:55 PM

Here's the kicker, Seth: they're unsafe. For you and others.

posted by: garth at May 2, 2008 5:06 PM

"Here's the kicker, Seth: they're unsafe. For you and others."

So's smoking.

[I think the jury's still out on whether it's unsafe for kids to smoke. -ed.]

posted by: Safe at May 2, 2008 5:12 PM

I've always liked this oddball Lexus-meets-Pacer thing... I was living in Japan when the first IS (er, Altezza) came out and one of my friends got this wagon when it debuted... it was the first Japanese one to get the Lexus straight-size 3.0L.

There was talk about extending the current IS to match all the bodystyles the BMW 3 series offers... they already have a coupe and convertible testing but I'd love that car in wagon form. The current IS is the best looking car Lexus sells (not a hard titled to claim, true) and a neat wagon version would make my day, and certainly make me reconsider my Jetta Sportwagen/Saab 9-3 Sportcombi lust. :)

posted by: cam c. at May 2, 2008 7:17 PM

I was interested in one of these until I actually drove it- completely boring, with lackluster quality and finishes (especially compared to most other Lexuses). Plus, the thing drives like most other Lexuses- more like an appliance than a car. But then, don't all Toyotas?

Conventional wisdom in car geek circles is that whereas BMW, Mercedes, Audi, and Infiniti consider their entry level models to be their bread and butter, Lexus has always focused on their top of the line LS model first, and then their mid-range GS model next. The IS was always an afterthought and it drives like one. I'm not a fan of the new generation IS, either, but it's now a serious contender.

[fwiw, i buy into that conventional wisdom. And coming to a car like this after it's off the market, it's too easy for me to ignore the competition it was targeting at the time--the Audi A4 and the 3-series--to figure out why it didn't do so well. -ed.]

posted by: Darren at May 3, 2008 2:02 AM

"As long as this site salivates over cars like the M5 Touring and the sure to be abysmal mileage that it brings with it, let's be a little gentler on the whole SUV/minivan class."

The M5 and the like are horrible, indeed.

And I think you for considering minivans. More utility for you (and likely a little better mileage) and if you're going to T-bone me in my normal car, I'd rather you be in a 4,500 pound minivan with a low bumper than a 5,000 pound SUV with a bumper right at head height. Every little bit helps.

posted by: AgnesDad at May 3, 2008 7:53 AM

Personally, I think the responsible purchase if you're going from one kid to two is the whole CR-V/Mazda5/'09 Forrester/RAV4/Escape class of vehicles -- IF you really, really can't make your current vehicle work.

The Legacy wagon is borderline -- I know the back seats are small. A tallish driver and a rear-facing car seat won't fit behind.

However, it's not like you're driving an Insight. You probably can find some way to make you, the kids, the wife/husband, and stuff for a week fit. Plus it's infinitely cooler than any of the other vehicles mentioned in this thread.

And you have to be honest with yourself about how you're packing. Does the dog always have to come along? Do you own two Bugaboos or other large strollers that could be replaced with something more reasonable? I think most people overpack and could make it with a smaller vehicle if they tried.

Try the Legacy for a while. If it works, put the Acadia money you saved in the college fund.

posted by: AgnesDad at May 3, 2008 8:03 AM

AgnesDad,
I have not problem with Escapes/Foresters/CRVs/etc but they don't do anything for me that my Legacy can't do. They make have more cubic volume but the floor space in the cargo area is no bigger (maybe even smaller) so unless you pack to the ceiling they don't do you much good. Certainly nothing there to justify the fuel economy hit.
Those GM and Mazda crossovers are pretty nice. They have really useful interiors and drive well. I didn't take out a tape measure but I don't think their bumpers are as high as what you think of as typical for an SUV. Again, I'm going to stick with the Legacy as long as I can.
Two Bugaboos? No way! That's a college fund right there.

posted by: Seth at May 3, 2008 9:16 AM

It's a lexus, by default, that makes it a toyota which places it a step ahead of the aztek, but below a subaru forrester.

[heh. I actually saw another one yesterday, and it is definitely not Aztek material. It does remind me of the Saab 900, though, which is not a bad thing. -ed.]

posted by: Adam Kmiec at May 4, 2008 7:47 PM

Funny that I read this right now since I saw one of these on the road yesterday. At first I thought it was a Hyundai Elantra hatchback, but nope. It was a Lexus.

posted by: Eric at May 4, 2008 9:35 PM

One major difference between the IS series and the SAAB and most other Japanese cars is that they are RWD.

posted by: Aran at May 7, 2008 10:49 AM

I have the IS300 SportCross and love it. Someone said they don't like how it drives. Well I can't compare it to sports cars since I have never had one, but I cross-shopped this with the A4 and ES330, and liked driving it a lot better.

The interior is clean and uncluttered, with the all lux features that are actually useful, like autodim mirrors and compass, electronic adjustable seats with heaters, sunroof, etc.

It has RWD so is much more fun on a nice twisty road than most wagons, comfy leather seats with side bolsters, auto with manual paddle shifters (fun to play with every once in a while), and has great handling.

With the back folded down you have almost as much room as a small SUV, and for long items the front passanger seat folds flat as well.

Finally the IS was made in Japan of 100% Japanese parts. I have the 02 model and six years later I have not had the slightest problem with it. Not a single repair.

The back seat is not huge, but it is fine for those under 6 feet. For a small car wagon this car is very heavy, about 3600lbs, so it feels very solid and safe, and a lot of safety features like side airbags and traction control are standard, though you can turn traction control off.

One more thing, the engine sounds wonderful when you floor it and it climbs up to speed. Just the right volume too.

posted by: Bob at May 9, 2008 1:14 PM
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